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Pablo Delis    #16461
West Chester    Pennsylvania USA     Posted: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 12:33:0 CST (GMT -6:00)

Great book! Changed my perspective on a lot of things!


sandi    #16460
Depok    West Java Indonesia     Posted: Monday, January 25, 2016 at 6:39:0 CST (GMT -6:00)

Dear Mr Quinn, I'm quite intrigued by Ishmael and am now reading The Story of B. I feel like I know what Ishmael is trying to tell us, but at the same time I feel in the dark as well. The totality of what is said is simply overwhelming, it's so obvious and because of that it's just to hard to believe.

I want to try to translate your book in Bahasa Indonesia, so I could spread the news to more people here. I already suggest your book to my friends. But, it's hard to find your book in Indonesia, even in Jakarta.

I will try to communicate with you if I manage to translate even just 1 chapter of your book, I feel so terribly foolish even to imagine I could comprehend pieces in the book, but I'll try.

best regards Sandi


micah cruse    #16459
Overland Park    KS USA     Posted: Saturday, November 7, 2015 at 9:22:0 CST (GMT -6:00)

Together we can do this. We can invent, we can inspire, we can give the world a chance to change and include all the creatures of it in our progression toward the tree of life.


John Fish Kurmann    #16458
Kansas City    MO USA     Posted: Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 7:9:0 CST (GMT -6:00)

Hi, all. Just a quick note to let you know that the Quinns are now offering an organic cotton t-shirt and a bumpersticker on the theme we belong to the world. They were both designed by my dear friend Brad Boe tho' the wording on them is Daniel Quinn's. I think they look great and that this is surely a message that needs to be spread. I hope you agree. If so, go to http://www.cafepress.com/ishmaelsannex to see those and other designs.


Jane Toner    #16457
Kew    VIC Australia     Posted: Monday, September 21, 2015 at 22:2:0 CST (GMT -6:00)

Thanks Dan - I just read your article via Films for Action - love it! I'm studying biomimicry where we talk about remembering our connection with nature and reConnecting- there are many parallels with your work. I was thinking that the Law of Limited Competition ties in with Life's Principles, which are deep patterns for survival ingrained in every organism. it seems that we forgot them but i have hope that we will remember. Thanks again! Jane


Madeline    #16456
Corvallis    OR USA     Posted: Thursday, August 13, 2015 at 17:18:0 CST (GMT -6:00)

Together, we can change things. Have hope~


Barry Davies    #16454
Auckland    New Zealand     Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 at 20:50:0 CST (GMT -6:00)

On my web site entry page, I refer to the 'economies' (local, national, and global) of our civilization as tumors. The biological definition of cancer seems to fit perfectly - but, looking at the details of the definition, I conclude that we are in transition from taker (malignant) to neo-leaver (normal). Below are the details, in which I needed to quote DQ's taker and leaver positions. This is where Ishmael has lead me over the years since publication.

Cancer Defined

"Cancer cells are defined by two heritable properties: they and their progeny (1) reproduce in defiance of the normal restraints [ our civilization is a top predator with an unlimited food supply ] and (2) invade and colonize territories normally reserved for other cells."

Continuation: "It is the combination of these features that makes cancers particularly dangerous. An isolated abnormal cell that does not proliferate more than its normal neighbors does no significant damage, no matter what other disagreeable properties it may have; but if its proliferation is out of control, it will give rise to a tumor, or neoplasm -- a relentlessly growing mass of abnormal cells. As long as the neoplastic cells remain clustered together in a single mass, however, the tumor is said to be benign, and a complete cure can usually be achieved by removing the mass surgically. A tumor is counted as a cancer only if it is malignant, that is, only if its cells have the ability to break loose, enter the bloodstream or lymphatic vessels, and form secondary tumors, or metastases, at other sites in the body [...]. The more widely a cancer metastasizes, the harder it becomes to eradicate."

Source: Molecular Biology of the Cell, 3rd Edition, Alberts et al, Garland Science, 1999. ISBN-10: 0815336233. ISBN-13: 0815336235. Page 1256.

Note: Tumors are benign here - so that transformation to normality might be easy. But some 'economies' - like illegal gold mining in tropical South America, or illegal palm oil farming in Indonesia - seem manifestly malignant. I say 'benign' here because I imagine that we are in a transition from malignancy to normality. Our civilization was malgnant back when the first principle (see Daniel Quinn's Ishmael) was "God created the world for us and He created us to conquer and rule the world". This was before the advent of the environmentalism we have today. Thankfully technology was primitive formerly and not so advanced now as it will be in the hopefully near future when our first principle returns to (again see Ishmael) "The world is a sacred place and process to which we belong." When the new (very old) first principle is fully established, we will have returned to the normality that our ancesters had up to about 10,000 years ago.

About 1st Principles: It seems to me that first principles for civilizations need to be intangible in nature, so that they can only be implicitly asserted. This is because they must greatly transcend mere words. They can then be approximated with words in about as many ways as there are people to do the saying. Consequently: "First do no harm" and "The world is a sacred place and process to which we belong" represent the same first principle, but "God created the world for us and He created us to conquer and rule it" is clearly a different first principal. With the right attitude and much more advanced technology, we will be able to be harmless.

Daniel writes "Just to be clear: I myself see no evidence to support the statement that "we are in transition from taker (malignant) to neo-leaver (normal)." I wish I did. It should also be noted that the quotes he attributes to Ishmael and to me are in fact his own "improvements" and not quotes."


Nathan    #16452
Edmonton    AB Canada     Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 20:3:0 CST (GMT -6:00)

This video reminded me of Ishmael's interpretation of the Bible stories: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW1YcClJCFw Not trying to start a discussion, but really curious how other long-time students/masters respond to this


Scott Grimmwise    #16451
Lincoln    NE USA     Posted: Friday, June 12, 2015 at 8:17:0 CST (GMT -6:00)

Just thinking today about The Story of B and its pre-internet shorthand/fax machine plot device. I wonder what young people make of it today?!


Sam    #16450
   USA     Posted: Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 15:21:0 CST (GMT -6:00)

Daniel comments: Whenever I mention ISHMAEL to people, they always ask "What's it about?" I'll bet the same thing happens to you. This review does a SPLENDID job of answering that question -- in less than two minutes! I couldn't have done better (or even as well). I'll be putting it on my Facebook page and in the announcement section of this website. You won't learn anything you didn't already know, but that's not the point. It's tailor-made for you to give to people who ask "What's it about?" It's simply a terrific tool that needs to be made available to all the millions who have said to their friends, "You've GOT to read this book!"


Jesus    #16449
El Paso    TX USA     Posted: Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 11:41:0 CST (GMT -6:00)

Hey, after years sharing the book I've decided to encourage more people to read Ishmael. And so I made this 2-minute video. It's not a boring review, I hope you like it and please share it, comment and like it so more people want to read the book. This is the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7um8unEn4hU


Destry "Moose" Griffith    #16446
PDX    OR USA     Posted: Friday, March 6, 2015 at 17:54:0 CST (GMT -6:00)

Www.weneedeachother.net


david anderson    #16445
   USA     Posted: Friday, February 27, 2015 at 9:16:0 CST (GMT -6:00)

From my youth I knew that I was an outcast; I found sanctuary with family and friends; but the laws of man and nature would separate me from both. With the passing of many years I've come to understand the reason for this separation. I broke many of the rules of society. But I was always searching for the truth, even as it applied to my life. I was not afraid of change once I discovered this truth. Much of what I have found here at "Ishmael" is the truth, it is the truth I have known from the days of my youth but never had the words. Many of these same ideas have been clear in my mind for many years but I had never seen them committed to print. I often wonder if it's possible to change the course of human's and the destructive course we have set for our selves. When I was a young man in my twenty's, I found my self in an old graveyard at Cripple Creek Colorado, one of the grave stones had these words carved there; "As you are I once was, As I am, you will be" This is a truth we can not escape; but we can take the time that lies between birth and death to search out the truth and then make a contribution to help set a better course for the human species.


Cianaodh Óg, http://templeofthestones.org    #16444
Arlington    TX USA     Posted: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 at 13:6:0 CST (GMT -6:00)

My acting High Priestess and her husband loaned me a copy of Ishmael (Which I have now purchased two copies of for our temple library) and then later My Ishmael and The Story of B. I am very excited to share the things I have learned with others and hope to wake more people up. Thank you for all that you do!


Alex    #16443
healy    ak USA     Posted: Friday, January 2, 2015 at 16:39:0 CST (GMT -6:00)

I never did well in school. I was bored. I told my parents that I didn't care about opportunities, I wanted to be a caveman when I grew up.

I joined the army. That was stupid.

Then I grew up.

I still just want to be "a caveman". I just want to be outside and hunt and spend my free time goofing around.

I moved to the Alaska bush and simplified my life. I knew I was happy, but when my girlfriend (now wife) introduced me to Ishmael I knew that my path was right. It was everything I felt but didn't know how to say.

Thanks!



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