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    User-set disclosure level: 3
    Network Record Number: 745
    This record (745) last updated: Oct 25, 2001
    First Name: Joel
    Last Name: Thomas
    Address1: P.O. Box 188
    City: Yarnell
    State: AZ
    Country: UNITED STATES
    ZipCode: 85362-0188
    Phone: 928-427-9450
    URL: http://
    Fax: 928-427-0277
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    Beats me! I read Ishmael three times and am getting ready for #4. It makes sense to me and I wish to be part of the changing paradigm. However, I'm mid-way in my seventh decade of life and I have always done the best that I possibility could. I may just have to stand on the curb, waving the flag, shouting words of encouragement, as the parade marches by. In other years I've stood on picket lines and marched for different causes; fought for my country; raised a family; achieved position, success and power; high blood pressure. Did the whole * Taker * trip. Now I live my life in a small rural Arizona community of about 750 or so souls. My blood pressure this morning was 130 / 78.

    Any other personal information/resources/advice/ideas to share?

    My daddy was an organizer with the teamsters union back during the depression in Brooklyn. Many a night he went out to a meeting and we prayed until he returned un-bloodied. I went to school in the Betford-Stuyvesant section and learned about the streets. I know that change comes slow and hard. Then, I learned of a smoother and softer way - the path of least resistance - go along with the system. And it worked. I learned the rules and played the game. Over time I won many- and I lost some. A lot of you folks who are posting here seem to have the youth and vigor to go forward with Quinn's ideas. How well you'll hang on when your relationships suffer in the face of peer pressure will be the measure of your values and dedication toward change. As for me I have choosen a simpler road to travel. I have attached myself to a few younger people and question their school knowledge and perceptions. All of those things that they are taught to be true. Then, perhaps, a small change happens - one at a time. I wish you all well while on this path. YarnellJoel

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