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The Ishmael Network Reading List

    These resources are suggested by readers. Ishmael Network members can add their suggested readings by logging into their record here... Please note that this list is neither compiled nor reviewed by Daniel Quinn. It should not be assumed, therefore, that he either endorses these books or agrees with the comments made about them. This statement holds true for the Ishmael Webmaster as well.... As of Thursday, September 9, 2010 there are 838 books in the suggested reading list. Here is an easy to print list of everything...)

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  • Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Debby Macek...and Debby has this to say about the book: "This book painstakingly explains with thorough research the reasoning behind why certain societies/tribes of people were able to conquer others. Great explanations of how societes became farmers, etc. Gives more detail and research to Quinn's statements about farmers vs. hunter-gatherers and why farmers have historically won."
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  • Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies by Jared Diamond has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Alan Thornhill...and Alan has this to say about the book: "This is a must read for everyone who found Ishmael compelling. It gives the background for Ishmael and answers the question, "How did things get to be like this?""
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  • Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies by Jared Diamond has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Egan Rowe...and Egan has this to say about the book: "I read it prior to reading Ishael and it provided the background information of human history and the evolution of human society and culture, which enable me to see and understand this work in a deeper way. "
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  • Hackers And Painters: Big Ideas From The Computer Age by Paul Graham has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Matthew Paulus...and Matthew has this to say about the book: "This is another book that I only recommend part of. Chapter 3: What You Can't Say...Thinking Heretical Thoughts And What To Do With Them. Graham shows us why it is essential for us to think what we're told not to. But also points out the dangers of going against moral fashion trends. Going against clothing fashions will merely get you laughed at. Going against moral fashions can get you threatened, beaten or killed. But he also gives us hope, by pointing out that many heretics are redeemed as geniuses when they are proved correct. Chapter 3 is an inspiring reading. Unless you are a programmer, a big chunk of this book will be boring. Paul Graham was one of the founders of ViaWeb, a revolutionary online business, so if you are interested in a new way of earning a living, you might also take away many ideas from the chapters describing how ViaWeb was founded, organized, and run until it was bought by Yahoo! and turned into YahooStores! That's the sad part, another great idea and unique approach to the problem of earning a living sold out to a big corporation. But the lessons are still there to be learned."
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  • Hannibal by Thomas Harris has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Jim Weiler...and Jim has this to say about the book: "I've been trying to figure out what made Hannibal the book (over 1 million copies in print) and the movie box-office hit that it is... and why I liked it as much as I did. While reading My Ishmael, I finally figured it out. It's not the horror of cannibalism that's made it such a hit, it's Hannibal Lector's stepping outside the keeping of food under lock and key, and dining on "free-ranging" human flesh, that fascinates people so much; the violation of a taboo absolutely central to our culture. The point is only heightened by Hannibal's highly intelligent, charismatic, and cultured demeanor in both the book and as portrayed in the movie by Anthony Hopkins (one of the finest actors I've ever watched). Try to imagine either the book or the movie even being published in the 1950s, say? Let alone being a major book and movie hit?"
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  • Healing the Soul of America by Marianne Williamson has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Chris McCarthy...and Chris has this to say about the book: "What fascinated me about this book was the suggestion to make amends to other cultures as a beginning of the healing process. As a member of a twelve step program, I can see where the author has borrowed concepts from this institution."
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  • Hello, My Name Is Chellis And I Am In Recovery From Western Civilization by Chellis Glendinning has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Teri Kelly...and Teri has this to say about the book: "Chellis helps us to understand how our disconnectedness to the natural world is affecting our mental state as a culture. She shows us that to become balanced as a culture, we have to being to connect with nature. It is an important book that focuses on the need to heal ourselves in order to heal the world. Classic ecopsychology."
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  • Hero With A Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell has been suggested by Ishmael Network member David Nathan...and David has this to say about the book: "More on why people think the way they do, plus plenty of history, anthropology, story telling, etc."
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  • Hiroshima by John Hershey has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Wythe Marschall...and Wythe has this to say about the book: "War, an outgrowth of Taker dominance and unknown to Leavers, is hell. Hiroshima gives us an unabashed, close up look at the evils of Taker society. Maybe people who've Hiroshima will be more inclined to check out Quinn's books and ideas. For our sakes, I hope so."
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  • Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy by Douglas Adams has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Borjan Komarica...and Borjan has this to say about the book: "Well, let's just say it does not contradict one tiny bit to anything DQ said. Of course it's all SF satire, but the view on our Taker culture, as well as his view of everything else he described in the book is quite unique. Everything could be so easily translated into "less serious" methafors for Daniel's Vision. Until I've read Daniel's books, this was my favourite book of all time and I almost know it by heart, so e-mail me if you want examples and similarities between DA's and DQ's visions (if you can't figure it out by yourself)..."
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  • Hope for the Flowers by Trina Paulus has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Clifton Fels...and Clifton has this to say about the book: "It represents the blossoming of a different worldview, and the slow, but inevitable, result of changed minds"
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  • Hope, Human and Wild: True Stories of Living Lightly on the Earth by Bill McKibben has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Tiffany Ensey...and Tiffany has this to say about the book: "The author describes communities around the world that confront our problems and find solutions to them and live fulfilled lives in the process. This book gives true examples of how some communities are beginning to 'walk away from the pyramid'"
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  • Hope, Human and Wild: True Stories of Living Lightly on the Earth by Bill McKibben has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Kara Cox...and Kara has this to say about the book: "This book shows us that change is possible. It is the story of two cities that seem to have taken a page right out of some of Daniel Quinn's books."
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  • How are we to Live?: Ethics in an Age of Self-Interest by Peter Singer has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Travis Rhoades...and Travis has this to say about the book: "This book attempts to show the negative effects of a greedy consumer culture along with the benefits of living an ethical life."
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  • How Can I Help? by Ram Dass & Paul Gorman has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Hummer Pleshe...and Hummer has this to say about the book: "Within the tribe or the community, "helping", aiding and assisting one another, is second nature. Takerdom divides us up. Ram Dass give us some guidelines about helping each other."
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  • How the Mind Works by Steven Pinker has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Dale Barnard...and Dale has this to say about the book: "This is the most inspiring book I've read since Daniel Quinn's stuff. Great writing style with plenty of humor that looks very hard at exactly what humans are built for. If we know what we have evolved to do well, then perhaps we'll do more of it! Truly an amazing book!!! Oh, and the author is very humble about what we really know about the how the brain works, which is nice. He doesn't pretend that we know more than we really do."
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  • How To Read A book by Mortimer J Adler has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Benjamin Moss...and Benjamin has this to say about the book: "Sorry to say my friends, but this does not directly relate to any of the ideas of our esteemed teacher, Daniel Quinn. What it does do, however, is provide an excellent method of reading that can help us all get more out of every book we read. After having read "How to Read A Book", I wanted to go back and read all the books I read prior to see what I missed. It really is a big help, almost like learning a whole new aspect of language. I hope this helps."
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  • How to Survive Without a Salary by Charles Long has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Fred E.L. Ledoux...and Fred E.L. has this to say about the book: "The conserver lifestyle which this book espouses, is in sync with saving the Earth. One can learn from this book how to be less of a consumer of resources and more of a saver, reuser and recycler, and save a pile of money doing it, while actually living better. It also show how to free oneself from the economic chains of modern society."
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  • How to Win By Quitting & Enlightenment Is Losing Your Mind by Jerry Stocking has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Pat Chipman...and Pat has this to say about the book: "It explains the three types of consciousness: patterning, awareness, and consciousness, and illustrates how manking has used the evolutionary gift of consciousness to create illusions to live in, thereby letting the illusions of consciousness and patterns block out awareness completely. Consciousness needs to be used in conjunction with awareness & patterning, and not as an instrument of controlling and judging the world, which is an impossible task."
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  • Human Adaptability: An Introduction to Ecological Anthropology, Second Edition. by Emilio Moran has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Xavier Sonnerat...and Xavier has this to say about the book: "I expected more adaptive cultural strategies from primitive people than modern ecological data. Still, this intro book is based on systems thinking and provides many resources for more in-depth stuff."
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  • Human Scale by Kirkpatrick Sale has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Ramey Wood...and Ramey has this to say about the book: "With anecdotes, facts, stories and statistics, this 1980 book surveys our society highlighting how we, humans, have lost our scale. From the construction of our living spaces to our educational systems, from the function of our eyes to transportation, health, government and community, Sale offers us an accessible read for many points to consider. Does it relate directly with Quinn's books? Not exactly...but what does? If taken literally, as gospel, without any consideration, thought, personal application or exploration, any book falls short. This text is worth the read. Again, and again, and again..."
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  • Humanity's Environmental Future: Making Sense in a Troubled World by William McCluney has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Dr. Ross McCluney...and Dr. Ross has this to say about the book: "Incorporates the vision and expands on it."
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  • Hyperspace by Machio Kaku has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Mark Urmos...and Mark has this to say about the book: "Daniel Quinn's vision of tribal livelihood are somewhat contrasting to Hyperspaces implications of an advanced society, or a stable society. Kaku suggests globalization of the planet in order for it to survive and harness its resources properly. I find both Kaku and Quinn have valid points, and feel one approach cannot be left out by the other."
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  • I Am That : Talks With Sri Nisargadatta by Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Zachary Vogt...and Zachary has this to say about the book: ""The only book on spirituality worth reading.""
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  • I Heard The Owl Call My Name by Margaret Craven has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Dorothy Sladicka...and Dorothy has this to say about the book: "This book brings us back to the simple times of life,and reminds us what is important. That less is best,and we should only take what we need and leave the rest for the others because we are not seperate and we are definately the same we just happen to look different."
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  • Illusions by Richard Bach has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Timothy Morey...and Timothy has this to say about the book: "It teaches that we are only limited by the limitations that we choose to impose upon ourselves"
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  • Illusions, The Story Of A Reluctent Messiah by Richard Bach has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Samuel Sampson...and Samuel has this to say about the book: "This is a great book about human reality. We have got ourselves stuck in a world where everyone stands alone waiting for someone to lead the way. Here is someone who takes the job and then quits. No one would believe him as he tried to teach them that he wasn't anyone special. Everyone had it in them to be like he was. Read."
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  • Illusions: Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach has been suggested by Ishmael Network member roof exit...and roof has this to say about the book: "Richard Bach's "Illusions: Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah" calls into question the way people live and believe, and challenges one to think differently about their role in the universe."
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  • Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Emily Blagden...and Emily has this to say about the book: "This book tells the story of a biplane pilot who meets a real messiah who has relenquished his messiah-hood. Through him he begins to study the teachings in a handbook for messiah's, and begins to recognise the illusions of his society. This book focusses on illusions and truth."
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  • Immediatism by Hakim Bey has been suggested by Ishmael Network member B. H....and B. has this to say about the book: "Hakim Bey's focus is to help lay the ground work for a new type of existence. If you liked Beyond Civilization, it is a must read."
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  • In Defense of Hunting by James Swan has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Jon-Michael Sherry...and Jon-Michael has this to say about the book: "Environmentalist and psychologist James Swan defends the practice of hunting and gives insightful, animistic views of our relation to the world. Whether you're for or against the hunting of animals, this is a must read in order to get a better understanding of this subject, and ourselves."
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  • In Search of Nature by E.O. Wilson has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Jonathan Cohen...and Jonathan has this to say about the book: "A fantastic biological and philosphical companion to "Ishmael," and a great introduction the author's work, through various essays."
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  • In Search of the Primitive: A Critique of Civilization by Stanley Diamond has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Xavier Sonnerat...and Xavier has this to say about the book: "Despite some passages where Diamond spends a little too much time defining what anthropology should be, this book is truly wonderful and one of its kind. An absolute must-read."
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  • In The Abscence Of The Sacred: The Failure of Technology and The Survival of the Indian Nations by Jerry Mander has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Carl Cole...and Carl has this to say about the book: "Look at the title. Arguments for the failure of how "takers" interact with the enviroment. Discussion on how "leaver" culture differs from this doministic viewpoint."
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  • In the Absence of the Sacred. The Failure of Technology & the Survival of the Indian Nations by Jerry Mander has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Becky Hatton...and Becky has this to say about the book: "I read this book before reading Daniel Quinn's ideas. It really shook me up. It takes on our cultural belief that technology is a neutral tool that can be well used or misused. It is a book that makes us look more closely at cost of the technologies we think we benefit from."
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  • In the Spirit of the Earth: Rethinking History and Time by Calvin Luther Martin has been suggested by Ishmael Network member John Weiland...and John has this to say about the book: "Explores the relationship between civilization building and the worship of 'sky gods' in the generation of human insanity."
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  • In Watermelon Sugar by Richard Brautigan has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Cera Marshall...and Cera has this to say about the book: "this is the sweetest utopian story i have ever read -- brautigan creates a world (on the outskirts of the "forgotten works" where the remnants of an old civilization lurk and where the undesirable parts of the story originate) where the characters love one another and live harmoniously everyone should read this book once or twice at least to be able to say that they have read something that has the full title of "In Watermelon Sugar the Deeds Were Done and Done Again as My Life is Done in Watermelon Sugar"."
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  • Ingwe by M. Norman Powell has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Kevin Jarvis...and Kevin has this to say about the book: "Nature is our Teacher."
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  • Initiation by Elizabeth B. Jenkins has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Hummer Pleshe...and Hummer has this to say about the book: "Dan's works center on "there is no one right way" The Incas and their predecessors and descendants, by focusing on energy have lived a facinaringly different cosmology for millenia. Jenkins focuses on a specific Andean process (that of an initation into the Andean priesthood) but to explain the process she and her mentor, Juan Nunez del Prado, give fascinating illustrations from the culture of the Inca. Energy is not "good" or "bad" but finer or denser. Their society was based around the small group in tens and multiples of ten, called "ayllu". They interacted on the basis of "ayni" or reciprocity and taught and cared for each other. And still do. Different; not good/bad, not dominating; not "Taking" for the sake of greed. Recirocity. (I have more at http://humrhums.livejournal.com)"
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  • Inner Work by Robert A. Johnson has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Josie Kraft...and Josie has this to say about the book: "Explains "conscious living" - how to access our unconscious and how doing so relates to our overall being. Explains how the glaring negligence in this area in today's Taker society has caused so many of our problems, and how inner work can change one's life forever. Explains why and how the "Leaver" societies were and are successful and so much more complete. I believe it is essential to become "conscious" and be at peace with one's Self before significant changes can be made in others around us."
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  • Intimate Nature The Bond Between Women and Animals by Linda Hogan has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Miranda Laufenberg...and Miranda has this to say about the book: "This book includes essays from many women from many different cultures. An exerpt of the intro states: "In recent years, according to Earth-Time, humans have lost their more intimate relationships with animals as peers, teachers, and kindred allies. For centuries now, male priests, doctors and scientists have declared animals a territory to be approached with objectivity and detachment. And in these last centuries we have become increasingly deperated from animals and the natural world. We've been taught to see them as creatures who have no soul, no capacity for pain, emotion, intelligence, or worth. In Claude Bernard's 'Physiology' he states that 'Aman of science no longer hears the cry of animals, the blood that flows....he sees only his ideas.'" The book continues in the form of essays written by women on how they connect with the animal world and how the white-man (as a population-not individual) has, in my words, royally screwed things up. For me, it articulates the same message Ishmael does, but it does so in what we call a non-fiction way."
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  • Into the Wild by Jon Krakauer has been suggested by Ishmael Network member jonathan k...and jonathan has this to say about the book: "gives the story of someone who finds pyramid building intollerable."
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  • Introduction to Permaculture by Bill Mollison has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Sue Hayes-McQueen...and Sue has this to say about the book: "Like Ishmael et al., Permaculture is a way to work with the earth that makes sense. It is realistic and achievable for most of us, and has changed my life as much as Ishmael."
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  • Invisible Cities by Italo Calvino has been suggested by Ishmael Network member David Cloyd...and David has this to say about the book: "I just think this book is amazing in terms of the creation of dream worlds that sound so impossible, but that you can find anywhere you look."
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  • Ishmael by Daniel Quinn has been suggested by Ishmael Network member William Morgan...and William has this to say about the book: "This is the first step to an open mind."
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  • Ishtar Rising : Or, Why the Goddess Went to Hell and What to Expect Now That She's Returning by Robert Anton Wilson has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Evan Sarver...and Evan has this to say about the book: "All of Robert Anton Wilson's works might be of interest to a reader of Daniel Quinn's books, but this one in particular might strike a chord. As with all Wilson's writings, he takes you on a deep and often humorous journey through the human mind, leaving you with a new paradigm by the end of the book. Beware to those who have very STRONG opinions, as Wilson will certainly challenge them in ways that might enrage. Wilson is one of those authors that you either love or hate, and most of his books are this way too. Ishtar Rising provides valuable insights into the divine female and the earthly female."
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  • Island by Aldous Huxley has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Bill Clary...and Bill has this to say about the book: "Huxley's last novel is his vision of a better way to live. Its chief benefit is showing how one can conceive of a different way to live."
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  • Isle of Woman by Piers Anthony has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Becky Robare...and Becky has this to say about the book: "Isle of Woman is the first in a series of novels of human history, which includes Shame of Man, Hope of Earth, and Muse of Art. A picture of human history is offered, from the beginning of genetic humans, to the beginning of agriculture, and to the present and future, where the lifestyle determined by this culture has been broken completely. Different visions are offered of humanity's future journey, but all agree on one point: that a continuance of the present way will literally mean the end of the world as we know it."
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  • ismael y la salvacion de la tierra by daniel quinn has been suggested by Ishmael Network member ramiro iturbe...and ramiro has this to say about the book: "yes"
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  • Jesus or Jehovah by Patricia Cabaniss has been suggested by Ishmael Network member Patricia Cabaniss...and Patricia has this to say about the book: "The Bible has been traditionally hard to read in that Jesus appears to have said and done two diferent things or said them about the same subject. Whereas in fact two entities or gods have been purposely woven into one in order to create confusion.Common sense is applied to the Ishmael theme story and it is the return to common sense which will take our world forward out of the mess that we have created.This book shows that when things do not make sense there is a reason.It is when we take the blinders off that we understand that if they do not make sense it will not work. So has religion never worked to help the world.It has created separation and that must end."
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