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"I'm telling you this because the people of your culture are in much the same situation. Like the people of Nazi Germany, they are the captives of a story."

"I know of no such story."

"You mean you've never heard of it?"

"That's right."

Ishmael nodded. AThat's because there's no need to hear of it. There's no need to name it or discuss it. Every one of you knows it by heart by the time you're six or seven. Black and white, male and female, rich and poor, Christian and Jew, American and Russian, Norwegian and Chinese, you all hear it. And you hear it incessantly, because every medium of propaganda, every medium of education pours it out incessantly. And, hearing it incessantly, you don't listen to it. There's no need to listen to it. It's always there humming away in the background, so there's no need to attend to it at all."

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UNIT 2 "Old Minds," "New Minds," and Programs

Old minds with new programs · New minds with no programs · No programs at all? · If not programs, then what?

Do you care whether there are still people around here in a thousand years? In a hundred years? Fifty years?

Quinn says programs never achieve the things they're created to achieve. Can you think of any exceptions?

The Manhattan Project and the Apollo Project both reached their goals. What's the difference between a project and a program? [Projects have clearly defined goals.]

Following the 1999 Columbine massacre, Attorney General Janet Reno said, "Let us take that tragedy and do everything we can to prevent it in the future." Does her statement reflect an old mind at work or a new mind?
Have students collect and discuss examples of "Old" and "New" thinking clipped from newspapers or magazines.

Quinn gives several examples of people following the principle "If it didn't work last year, let's do MORE of it this year." Drawing on your own experience, think of some other examples.

Have students list programs at work in your school or community and then define what unwanted behavior or activity they're designed to stop or control. Then have them assess their effectiveness.

Pick a topic of concern (say, school security) and appoint two teams to discuss it. Have Team A discuss it as a matter of "stopping bad things," then have Team B discuss it as a matter of "making things the way we want them to be." Then have the teams switch roles and continue the discussion.

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